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Lots of gun talk today, in anticipation of the announcement from the White House. Greg Dworkin joined us for a discussion of the crazy-ass NRA ad everybody is talking about, the prospects for legislation, and the politics & political coverage of executive action, including the descent into Jay Rosen's "Church of the Savvy," where the gun policy issue becomes one about "perceptions," covered horserace style. Also in today's show: A discussion of the history of debt ceiling votes in Congress, including the now dormant "Gephardt Rule." Firearms Derangement Syndrome, and the asymmetrical ways in which the left and right play "constitutional hardball" on gun issues. Armando returned to the "air" for a discussion of the debt ceiling, the death of The Coin, and Speaker Boehner's loss of control over the House. And a reading of Bush II Treasury official Tony Fratto's Twitter explanation of why simply "prioritizing" payments won't really stave off default.

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  •  Whether the issue is aggression or deprivation, (0+ / 0-)

    we have a tendency to focus on the results for the victims and maybe the act itself, but the agents most often get a pass.
    Perhaps that's because the citizens of the United States are still convinced that aggressive behavior is a good thing. Or perhaps we are so fixated on death that any lesser abuse gets ignored.
    Now, it is possible that shooter killing lots of innocent and inoffensive people is engaged in a one-time event for which there was no precedent. But, I think it is more likely that killing people represents an escallation of abuse that, if we were paying close attention, could be nipped in the bud.
    That we do not pay the kind of attention we should is, to a large extent, the consequence of our legislative representatives in Congress making the resources required to train and hire professional people artificially scarce. They don't want to help, even though that's what they are hired and paid to do. Indeed, a goodly number of members of Congress seem to get off on the mayhem being perpetrated throughout the nation in order to justify their own "protective" role, which largely involves putting more restrictions on the citizenry, as if we were domestic stock to be stabled.
    Why are children the most recent targets? Because they are vulnerable, unarmed, and confined like sitting ducks. Aslo, children have no civil rights and they don't vote. Some people always have to have some group to deprive of their rights. Since the attacks on gays and migrants and native Americans have pretty much back-fired, there's little left but the very old and the young.

    We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 11:17:31 AM PST

  •  Armando states the PCS/ Art.4 case exactly right (0+ / 0-)

    PBO needs a fallback position in the likely event that the House nutcase R's don't do the right thing.

    Warren is neither a Clintonesque triangulator nor an Obamaesque conciliator. She is a throwback to a more combative progressive tradition, and her candidacy is a test of whether that approach can still appeal to voters.-J. Toobin "New Yorker"

    by chuck utzman on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 02:36:08 PM PST

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